"Interior: Ethics Chief Found A 'Bit Of The Wild West' — Transcript"
"Interior Department ethics honcho Scott de la Vega needed to restore order when he took office in April 2018. Entering what he called the "land of Zinke," after the freewheeling then-Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, de la Vega told investigators last year he quickly identified the importance of "dramatically" improving the office meant to steer officials straight."